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Volg datum > Datum: dinsdag 12 februari 2008, 10:1512-2-08 10:15 Nr:114618
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Ans Jondral schreef op dinsdag 12 februari 2008, 1:02:

> eddy DRUPPEL schreef op zondag 10 februari 2008, 18:39:
>
>> Ans Jondral schreef op zaterdag 9 februari 2008, 13:14:

> In de lente/zomer gaan we waarschijnlijk wel meer gaan
> wandelen, dan moet hij natuurlijk wel een halstertje aan.
>
> Maar vind je het slecht dat ik hem gerust laat ofzo?

Hoi Ans,

Ik spring er maar even in. Je weet, mijn Huppeltje (nu ja, Huppel! Groot dat ze al is!) is net zes maanden oud en ik doe juist redelijk veel met haar (paar keer per week een paar minuutjes), het lijkt mij namelijk zo belangrijk dat ze de dingen zo vroeg mogelijk leert en niet overbeschermd opgroeit en dan ineens als ze vijf is met mij alleen naar bos en cursus moet.
Poetsen en hoefjes gaat al goed bij jou, dus dat is al geweldig goed (borstelen is hier minder in trek!). Is ie al wat verkeersmak? Kan je hem (progressief meer en langer) weghalen van de andere paarden? Kent hij basis-nuttige commando's zoals achteruit, voorhand opzij, achterhand opzij?
En dan kan je ook nog gewoon spelen met hem natuurlijk...
Het zijn maar ideeen, als het gewoon allemaal goed gaat doe dan gewoon uw goesting :-)

Groetjes,
Nathalie
Volg datum > Datum: dinsdag 12 februari 2008, 10:2212-2-08 10:22 Nr:114620
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Volg onderwerp > Onderwerp: Re: Het gaat fout met Bret Structuur

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Esther schreef op dinsdag 12 februari 2008, 9:25:

> Aafke schreef op dinsdag 12 februari 2008, 8:19:
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>> Ans Jondral schreef op dinsdag 12 februari 2008, 1:07:

> is het dus gebeurd. Maar er is positief nieuws! Ze had geen
> reflux meer haar maag blijft leeg en soms zijn er wat geluidjes
> in haar darmen te horen. Het is nog steeds kritiek, maar het is
> wel positief nieuws. We hopen dat het deze kant op blijft gaan.

Ja! We hopen mee! Sterke pony, flinke Bret, zo dapper, zo sterk, komop meid!
Volg datum > Datum: dinsdag 12 februari 2008, 11:1412-2-08 11:14 Nr:114634
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... is de Amerikaanse dierenarts die al jaren NH mee in de schijnwerpers plaatst, en die zelf een sterke voorstander is van 'foal imprinting'. Hij schreef onderstaand artikel naar aanleiding van een zeer publiek ongeval op de renbaan met een bekend racepaard.
Voor ons geen nieuws, maar toch leuk om te weten dat PN niet alleen staat.

And They Call Us Horse Lovers
By Robert M. Miller, DVM

The Nation was shocked when Barbaro broke down shortly after leaving the
gate at the Preakness. I saw the repaired fractures in TIME magazine. What
I think happened is that the sesamoid bone fractured, a common injury. As
a result, the fetlock collapses causing the pastern bone to explode into
multiple fragments, probably with the next stride or two.
The last time the general public was exposed to a racetrack tragedy like
this was when the great filly, Ruffian, fractured; the injury eventually
resulting in her death.

The news media focuses on great champions like these, but what most people
don't realize is that such injuries are relatively common occurrences in
horse racing.

Part of the cause is that we have bred athletic power into our racing
breeds far exceeding what nature requires for the horse to survive in its
natural environment. All wild horses need to do is outrun a big cat. We
have selectively bred for speeds that the anatomy of the horse cannot
always cope with.

In addition, we train and race them long before they are mature. The
immature are often capable of spectacular athletic performance. Every time
I watch an Olympics and I see gymnasts as young as 13, 14 or 15 years of
age, I wince at the thought of the damage I know is occurring to some of
their bodies. I started a year of gymnastics at 17 years of age, and I
wasn't very good, but I still managed to do damage that manifested itself
many years later. Fortunately, I was drafted into the Army at 18, which
ended my gymnastic career.

Half a century ago, when I was cowboying, "colts" were started at four
years of age or older. Once in a while, one might be started as a
three-year-old. Despite some very hard work, barring accidents, those
ranch horses were still sound and working into their 20's.

I'm not opposed to racing. It's a great sport and has motivated mankind to
produce truly great horse breeds. But I am opposed to any practices which
contribute to premature crippling of otherwise healthy horses.
Some years ago, the annual convention of the American Association of
Equine Practitioners (A.A.E.P.) was held in Dallas. The same week, the
national cutting horse futurities were being held in nearby Fort Worth.
Three colleagues from Sweden told me that they wanted to see the cutting
horses. So, one evening, after the day of scientific lectures had ended, I
accompanied the three Swedish vets to Fort Worth.

After watching several horses perform, the senior Swede, a professor from
the vet school in Upsula, Sweden, said, "This is incredible! It must take
many years to obtain such performance from a horse."
"But," I answered, "this is a futurity."
"I do not understand this word," he said.
"These are colts," I explained. "These are just three-year-olds."

He looked shocked, turned to his companions and explained to them
in Swedish and then said to me in English, "I have only two comments: One,
it must take great skill to be able to train a horse to do this in so
brief a time. And, two, what is happening to their poor legs?"

Today, we have all sorts of futurities - reining, cutting, barrel racing,
etc. I have tried many times to get owners to postpone arduous training to
give the colt a chance to mature. Most of the time, I was ignored. The
lure of winning something or making some money was too great to resist. My
strategy when the owner insisted on going ahead with training and/or
competition that I felt was premature was to say, "That's okay. You go
ahead. What you are doing is very good for my business."

Why is it that the protests against over-using young horses come primarily
from the people who profit from such abuse - the veterinarians? Is it
because we best understand the trauma being inflicted upon immature
skeletons, joints, ligaments and tendons?

Just as I am not opposed to racing, if properly conducted, I am not
opposed to horse shows or competitive equine events.
Horse shows, like all livestock shows, were conceived of long ago to
"improve the breed". They were designed to demonstrate and reward the
people who were doing the best job of breeding, of selecting bloodstock,
and of creating superior bloodlines.
Unfortunately, human nature, vanity and greed have corrupted the horse
show industry.

We see grotesque caricatures of the original character of each breed.
Stock horses, the working ranch breeds, are shown in Western Pleasure
classes traveling in a manner that would drive a working cowboy crazy.
With lowered heads, going in a downhill manner, these horses greatly
magnify the forces placed upon the forelimbs. Once again, good for us
vets. It produces income, but the horses suffer.
The wonderful Tennessee Walking Horse is shod and shown in distorted gaits
that can only be called "grotesque".

If it weren't for the frequent veterinary checks, which are mandatory, can
you imagine how many endurance racing horses would die because of their
riders' consuming desire to win? I remember the early endurance races.
Saddlebreds, with surgically distorted tails, and gingered anuses, are
exhibited with the pupils of their eyes dilated with atropine.

How many people who sincerely consider themselves to be "horse lovers"
wean foals at three months of age, or even earlier, which nature never
intended? How many horses, a gregarious species, spend their lives locked
in box stalls? How many horses in the U.S.A, like so much of our human
population, are damaged healthwise by excessive nutrition?
Such abuses exist in ever breed, every discipline, in every equine sport.
We need to step back and analyze what we are doing.

---Vervolg komt meteen...
Volg datum > Datum: dinsdag 12 februari 2008, 11:1912-2-08 11:19 Nr:114637
Volg auteur > Van: Nathalie Lagasse Opwaarderen Re:114625
Volg onderwerp > Onderwerp: Re: Bret weer koliek Structuur

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Piet schreef op dinsdag 12 februari 2008, 10:41:

> Nathalie Lagasse schreef op dinsdag 12 februari 2008, 9:31:

>> Piet! Razend interessant vind ik dit, je thermografische
>> probeersels! Kom gerust eens naar hier ook! Weet je nog de
>> Nevzorov-stelling dat een paard rijden wat niet in 'natural

> akelig duidelijk of je zadel perfect ligt of niet, zal
> ik een zadelfitting doen met een daarop volgend rapport.
> Hoewel ik de stuatie ter plekke ook al heel goed kan
> beoordelen.

Dat is een prima idee! Wanneer in april was dat ook weer? Die datum is van mijn agenda gevallen lijkt het. Ik hoop maar dat ik er geraak, want onze trailer gaat weg, ik moet nog aan een andere geraken én de trailertraining met Lolita en Huppel met de nieuwe trailer herbeginnen.

Groetjes,
Nathalie
Volg datum > Datum: dinsdag 12 februari 2008, 11:2112-2-08 11:21 Nr:114640
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--vervolg--

One of my clients was a prosperous, educated couple. They were very
congenial, and they owned three Quarter Horses. One day, they called me to
come to their home to worm their horses and check them over and booster
their vaccinations. When I arrived, I found only two horses, so I asked
where the third one was.
"Oh, he's in training as a reining horse, with ____________" (a
successful and notoriously brutal trainer who also happened to be one of
my clients).
I said, "Oh, I see."
Then the wife said, "We know how cruel he is to the horses, but he
wins!" I never felt the same toward those people, again.
This same trainer (he's been dead for many years) once said to me, "Doc,
why can't you guys cut the tails on my horses? Why do you make me drive
300 miles round trip to get my tails done?"
He was referring to the illicit surgical paralyzing of the tail,
common in reining horses so they can't switch their tails. ALL of the
horses in his barn had their tails cut.

I said, "Were you ever beaten in a show by a horse that you knew
had its tail cut?"
"Oh sure," he said. "Lots of times."
"Well," I told him, "I didn't cut the tail nor did my partners. We
won't do anything against the association rules."

This same guy, a world-class competitor, kept every horse in his barn on
Serpecil, a tranquilizer not approved by FDA for use in horses. I have no
idea where he got the drug, but somebody was selling it to him.
I believe that a conspiracy exists in the horse show industry. The
trainers are judges, and the judges are trainers. Too often, they scratch
each others' backs.

If Western Pleasure horses were shown as they were 50 or 60 years ago, a
good amateur could turn out a champion. But it takes a real pro to produce
the freaks seen in today's Western Pleasure classes. And, after the horse
goes back to the owner from the trainer and is no longer winning, it has
to go back to the trainer for a "tune-up".

A few days before I wrote this article, I got back from Bishop Mule Days,
a unique event I attend every year that has no equal anywhere in the
world. I had the pleasure of seeing Western Pleasure mules that WERE NOT
"peanut rollers".
The trend began some years ago, but the mule people balked at it and ruled
it out. GOOD FOR THEM! You see, to be a mule lover, you REALLY gotta love
horses!
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